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fiscal cliff, and hopes that we might get a possible deal to bridge the fiscal cliff in washington. but through the period these ten growth stocks have held up surprisingly well. i say surprising, because these stocks all had huge gains going into the fourth quarter. and with the fiscal cliff looming, many investors have been selling their biggest winners to take advantage of the current low capital gains tax rates that will likely go away come january. if we get a positive resolution caught to the fiscal cliff, you'll want to buy these stocks hand over fist. because then they'll really be able to roar. how have the anointed names done? >> amazon started at 259, pulled back to 220 before rebounding to 250, where it is right now. google has been pounded. it went from over 760 to below 660, but it's rebounded to 695. mastercard and visa, they took 25-point dives. i told to you buy them into weakness. falling from 475 to 450, and rallied to 487. these are great ones to buy now. a dozen points where above where i recommended. that's a win. visa has moved up nicely from 136 to 149. ulta
the fiscal cliff. the so-called fiscal cliff. they're not talking to each other at the moment. that is what the conversation is going to get to, how do we avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff? you suggested that the fiscal cliff might be good. i got a chance to go through your book. i understand, i think, why you might feel that way. the book argues that we need disorder to develop. we need disorder in our world to develop. we will come back to the book in a moment. based upon the motion -- that notion, why might the fiscal cliff be a good thing? >> we have been stuck for four years in a state of complacency. nobody wants to do anything about the accumulating problems. everybody knows about the problems. i think the civilization is masking deeper problems. if you let markets give you information, they will give the information. other than artificially prop up everything, like having the federal reserve control prices. this is not a long-term sustainable situation. what i think should happen is -- you would rather fail early than fail late. tavis: i'm trying to understand where the li
because of the gridlock in washington over this fiscal cliff. christine, you had a behind-the-scenes look yesterday at what's happened. >> i interviewed the ceo of fedex about the fiscal cliff, energy securities, but along the lines of the fiscal cliff there were a lot of people at this event, gene sperling, an adviser to the president, roy blount, a republican senator from tennessee there as well. people are grim right now about where we are on the fiscal cliff. i asked the ceo of fedex, he employs people. he is shipping packages. he cares about the price of oil, price of energy, and he cares about the clarity of what's happening in washington. listen so what i asked him. >> as a ceo, when you're watching the fiscal cliff, how do you make decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficu
to the fiscal cliff battle being waged in washington. now, late this afternoon house speaker john boehner sent a letter to the president detailing a bold counter offer to the administration's plan. the g.o.p. proposal does not include a tax increase on the so-caldwell thee but does contain $800 billion in revenue through tax reform, another $600 billion in health savings and much more. all told, the net savings amount to around 2.2 trillion dollars. the white house responded to this letter by saying that the president is, quote, willing to compromise but not on the subject of making job creators pay more in taxes. however, what our tax and spend commander-in-chief fails to understand is that putting money into the hands of you, the american people, is the single best way to spur economic growth, and it's not just people like ronald reagan who understand this principle. bill clinton famously said the era of big government is over and the end of wel welfare as we know it. why? because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occu
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republicans want to solve washington's fiscal cliff dilemma, and what the democrats are saying about it. we'll talk about that, and much more with our special guest this morning, the former british prime minister tony blair is with us. but planes from iran. revolutionary guards showing off what they are claiming to be is a captured american drone. coming up why the pentagon says don't believe it. >>> and baby makes three at buckingham palace. the royal couple, will and kate, creating a media frenzy on both sides of the pond with word that they are expecting. we're going to go live to london. >> talk about this morning, in addition to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest
to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for all our coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. we have a web site set up so you can follow along on our special page for these fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. good morning, doris. caller: good morning. the plan that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not call them entitlements because we worked hard and we earned them. there are no specifics. what loopholes will they close? of course, they are going to punish the poor and middle- class. their plan still gives another huge tax cut to the 1%. people need to look at what happened to this country between fdr and nixon. look at what happened with the conservative takeover from nixon until now. host: we are going to have
, the backdrop for why things are so difficult to do here in washington. the fiscal cliff, we just heard from the president and with julie anna on bloomberg, his first interview about the latest state of play, and a lot of people are asking why can't they get together? why can't they meet? they were together at the christmas party at the white house last night and there was no real conversation along the sides between the president and speaker. >> right. in the same room but did not talk. you know, andrea, i think you heard in the clip in the opening, president obama is insisting a balanced approach and we've talked about this before, balance is in the eye of the beholder. john boehner would say this is a balanced approach, we're putting revenue on the table as well as entitlement cuts. president obama seems to be indicating balance means getting more from the wealthy and likely to mean raising rates. as he said today and prior to today, the math doesn't add up if you simply close loopholes, cap deductions, do those sorts of things. we're sort of where we always have been. it's where we have
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not agree to some higher tax rates for the wealthy, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff, and the american people will hold them responsible. democrats also take issue with the proposal's spending cuts to medicare and social security. republican counter that tough cuts are needed to tackle the soaring debt, leaving washington locked in a stalemate, less than a month before every american sees their taxes shoot up. the gridlock has irritated people outside washington, like deborah page of arlington, texas. >> if i was working the way the president and congress was working, i would probably lose my job. >> reporter: page started a petition that would cease paychecks and health benefits for all members of congress and president obama if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff. the petition's chances are slim. but it's a reflection of americans' frustration with 28 days left. rob and paula? >> tahman bradley live in washington today. thank you, tahman. >>> and as talks over the fiscal cliff drag on, a new poll finds that most americans do not think very highly of congress. one in t
before the fiscal cliff goes over. >> bill, "the washington post" today has a poll which says 53% of americans are likely to blame republicans and just 27% the president if they don't agree on a fiscal cliff. we know that after the election, 60% of people said let's raise taxes on the wealthiest. what more does john boehner need? >> i don't understand the republicans' thinking on this. i really don't. this is power politics. they don't have the leverage in this situation. if they don't cut a deal within the next 30 days, you're going to see tax rates rise on all americans. you're going to see huge cuts in the defense budget. we're probably going to have a double dip recession, and until the congress then gets its act together to fix it and lower rates on the middle class, you will have the republicans essentially responsible for raising tax rates on the middle class. i can't imagine, again, bill krystal said this yesterday. i can't imagine why the republicans would want to be known as raising tacks xes on t middle class. >> thank you both. next, the president reacts to speaker bo
of concerns pertaining to washington and the fiscal cliff. we're watching any headline that comes out of washington because it can be a market moving event like last week when reid and boehner spoke. that jerks the market around one way or another. december is the best on wall street, the best of the 12 for s&p, but now it's lower one-third of 1%. that's the latest. phil, how is the cme? >> tell you what, the oil prices are really unmoved on the story out of egypt. traders watching that very, very carefully, but, today, the markets seem to be done on concerns about the swelling economy and the fiscal cliff, but this comes on a day when oil production in the united states hit another milestone. oil production last month hit the highest level since 1998, another step towards energy independence in the country, and another reason why oil prices are under pressure. the spread between the u.s. and europe, we're making a lot of progress on the oil production front, but across theeboard, we are seeing products really getting hit. oil, a feature today, down over five cents a gallon, and a lot
. >>> closing in on the fiscal cliff, the latest offer and rejection in washington. strange new clues about the whereabouts of a missing millionaire from silicone valley. where in the world is this man now? >>> he started at $55 million and they have now reduced it. >> discount does the trick. what it does to get the priciest mansion off the market. >>> good evening to you, there is still a lot of cloud cover and another rainmaker on the way to the bay area. find out why this one is different and why we won't have a flooding concern this go around. reduction offer right off te fiscal cliff. >>> the white house has booted the gop's new deficit reduction off the fiscal cliff. the 10-year plan promises to shave $2.2 trillion through a combination of entitlement cuts and tax reform measures. but house republicans still refuse to meet president obama's bottom line. letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy. in the statement, the white house said that the plan fails the balance test and sticks the middle class with the bill. >>> the gay marriage in california is still on hold tonight. the
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.s. could face massive spending cuts and tax increases known as the fiscal cliff. they are talking about it in washington. today congressional republicans put forward alternative to the president plan. but tonight we are no closer to a deal. political reporter mark matthews explains what that means. >> san francisco cafe owner has been watching the cliff creep closer an hoping for rest logs. >> because if they don't it's going to be really tough. >>reporter: he's talking about employees. see the income taxes increase by a couple of thousands dollars. >> cost of living is really high and tough to make it especially in the city like san francisco. >>reporter: if congress and president can't reach an agreement income taxes will go up on nearly all americans. average family will be paying an extra 2000 to 2400 dollars a year. automatic spending cuts mean cuts to education. transportation. research and development. there's proposal to up airline fee that is could raise 1 billion dollars cutting back on those who 7 fad stamps could bring in another 4 to 16 billion over 10 years. elimin
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to washington and get things done can't seem to make any progress at all on the looming fiscal cliff. instead, what we have is a game of finger pointing, both democrats and republicans, what else, blaming each other for the lack of a deal. now, keep in mind time is of the essence here. automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into effect in just four weeks if your members of congress can't come together and do a deal. on paper, it shouldn't be too hard. it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works
it off, but i'm not hearing that. megyn: okay. so then on top of that you got to fiscal cliff discussions in washington where the president wants to raise the income tax on top earners by another 3% or so in addition to this, these taxes you and i were just discussing. >> yeah. and that's a crucial point, because obama has repeatedly said he wants to go back to clinton era rates, but that ignores this new surtax at the beginning of the year. if they take the top rate from 35 to 39.6, it'll actually be 43.4 on investment income because we'll have that additional surtax on top of that. so dividends, for instance, which are 15 now could be going all the way to 43.4 which could have a very negative impact on the stock market. megyn: so right now if you make money off dividends, which a lot of folks do. you know, it's not just the super rich who get dividend income from their stock investments, right now you pay a 15% tax on that, and president obama wants to change that to you should get taxed on that income as though it's your actual, like, salary. and if that, if he gets his way on that, th
great. we could use a little of that in washington, we might get the fiscal cliff resolved. >> great point to make. tom, good to have you on the program. thanks so much. >> nice to be here. >> thomas wilson joins us, the chairman and ceo of allstate. >>> up next, high-end dreams. we'll talk high-end real estate next. >>> later, sticker shock at the hospital. we're going over the fiscal cliff. will that coupled with obamacare kicking in sent your hospital bills through the roof? i'll talk with the head of one of the biggest hospital groups in the city. stay with us. back if a moment. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout.
obama their thoughts on the "fiscal cliff." the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one is going to get what they want. but we have to compromise. if everything is going to be on the table, how do we negotiate? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2 .2 trillion from the federal deficit over 10 years. but $600 billion in healthcare cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending, and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich bringing in 1.6 trillion. republicans want to close tax loopholes and eliminate deductions to raise $800 billion in new revenue. >> the president has a hug
. >>> deal or no deal. we're on the edge of our seats. washington, the fiscal cliff suspense is killing us. 29 days in counting until our taxes go up and across the board spending cuts. we still don't know any of the details. instead we're getting lots of mixed messages as to what exactly is going to happen, where things stand. >> there has been progress. >> right now i would say we're nowhere. >> i'm increasingly pessimistic. >> so tonight, two men who have lots of experience dealing with lawmakers. paul begala, david frum, former adviser to president george w. bush. gentlemen, nice to have you both. david, let's start with you. depending on who you listen to, it's either going great or not going well at all. they're either optimistic or completely pessimistic. which is it? >> i feel about this whole process as a basketball nonfan, i feel about basketball, which is start it 100-100 and play for five minutes to get it over with. but i think we also need to take a step back and realize just how lunatic this whole process is. what the united states does not need right now is either spending
the so-called fiscal cliff. this morning president obama will host some of the nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on the top 2% of income earners. republicans counted with a 2.2 trillion dollar deficit reduction plan, 800 billion dollars in revenue, but didn't call for raising tax rates on wealthy. the proposal was quickly ejected with the white house. >>> new -- rejected by the white house. >>> new poll shows -- gallup asked americans to rate honesty and ethical standards car salesmen got lowest marks 8% marked them high or very high. congress is just above them, only 10% scored in the top two categories to be honest. journalists 24%. top of the rankings, nurses, 84% of americans gave them the highest marks and of course meteorologists right behind that >> i was going to say even though it is not darn -- not a 100% science -- [ talking over each other ] >> 100% science that has accuracy, a little less -- okay stop digging. [ talking over each other ] >> they didn't rate meteorologists i wonder who is
, don't know on net are investors hurt by that. >> let's move to washington, debates on the fiscal cliff continue, corporate america accelerating dividend payments to help investors avoid higher taxes next year. is it really as altruistic as it seems? what say you, john? >> i think it's great. i think that these things are going to be taxed. makes sense to get the value out to the shareholders before it is taken away. >> i thought it was very interesting that robert frank said earlier today something like 27 of the companies that paid this heavily dominated by insiders that would tell you what's driving these decisions. don't want to bet the ranch, the lower tax gains on that sale, money off the table. i think it is bare board shareholders. >> bad for shareholders, why? >> not bad for shareholders, if you are swooping into a stock to get the. >> president obama considering the "vogue" editor to be his next ambassador to france or the uk. one of the president's biggest fund raisers. anna win tour, the devil wears prada? the devil wears burberry here. >> i think this is a terrible idea. sh
washington bickers over the fiscal cliff and who's going to pay more in taxes, in great britain, lawmakers are telling some american companies it is time to start paying their fair share there in the uk. even throwing around terms such as shame, outrageous when talking about it. executives from google, amazon, and starbucks all appeared before a parliamentary committee looking into how international companies minimize the tax they pay in the uk. richard quest is in london to explain it all. now, richard, not necessarily talking about tax evasion here. it's more like avoidance, minimization, what's the concern? >> reporter: that's exactly the point. the companies are not breaking the law, not doing anything wrong. the accounts committee described their actions as immoral claiming they have r. so arranging their tax affairs so as to pay no tax in the country where the money is earned. this applies to google, which uses ireland, applies to amazon, on the continent, and it applies to starbucks in amsterdam. what we learned is how these companies arrange their affairs. so even though the latte
on the "fiscal cliff." >> and well wishes are pouring in for will and kate as brits make bets on whether it will be a boy, girl, twins or triplets. >>> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow live at the whole foods market in cupertino. if you have been looking for a way to help people for the holidays, we have a great idea for you plus we'll talk about that rain coming back all that in just a few minutes. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, typhoon in the philippines. 33 villagers wer >>> at least 74 people are dead or missing following a powerful typhoon in the philippines. >> 33 villagers all swept way after a massive wave hit their emergency shelter there. the storm brought in 160-mile- per-hour winds ashore toppling trees and causing widespread power outages. >>> syrian violence is deadly for schoolchildren. state media reports 29 students and a teacher were killed when a mortar slammed into their school outside damascus. the report blames terrorists a term the government uses for rebels. >>> this is live look right now outside the presidential palace in cairo, egypt. this is where roughly 100,000 prot
washington. i'm not thinking about washington but i think that is it. this is all about the fiscal cliff. we keep saying over and over it is boring but these guys have to get some resolution. tracy: what is the consensus of people you are speaking to on the telephone on wall street? did in come to some bipartisan agreement? >> no they don't and they're getting angry. [talking over each other] tracy: the rates go up essentially? nicole: special dividends tell you companies and a lot of them have been down in washington recently thinking this is not going to happen. they are declaring dividends ahead of a little bit. the general consensus, market's going to stay where it they are, this is a headline driven market. the flavor of the day is going to be where we are and that is why you will not see reinvestment. this is a trader's market. nicole: a lot of stories stocks will looking at with earnings and such but the big picture -- >> you can still make monee somewhere. nicole: if you pick the stocks. [talking over each other] tracy: see you in 15 minutes. ashley: crude oil futures at $88.50 a bar
. 29 days until america goes over that fiscal cliff, which would upend family budgets. and late today democrats and republicans now both have plans on the table. just as an ordinary citizen, who has had it with gridlock, says what if all of us did something that made them get to work? abc's jake tapper on the state of play tonight. >> reporter: yesterday in arlington, texas, data analyst deborah page was watching the sunday political talk shows when she got angry. >> the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> we're not going to extend an extension of the tax rates for the top 2%. >> if i was working the way congress and the president are working, i would probably lose my job. >> reporter: so early this morning, paige went on to the petition page on the white house website and wrote a petition that would cease paychecks and health benefits for all members of congress and the president until the fiscal cliff is avoided. unlikely, but a reflection of voter frustration as both sides dig in. the white house demanding higher tax rates for the top two tax bracke
republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
--read staffed somewhere else beating thank you jackie. >> the latest from the fiscal cliff talks in washington competing plans for the white house and republicans and little talk of compromise. the white house plan raises taxes on income over too much of $50,000 with 350 billion in cuts to medicare and 200 billion in new stimulus and infrastructure spending. the republicans counter offer has deeper cuts to medicare and reduces the social security cost-of-living increase. but it has no tax increases. it raises revenue through closing tax loopholes and deductions. if the white house immediately rejected the republican proposal. the president saying he would not accept any proposal without a tax increase for wealthy americans. >> u.s. official said the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure serious chemical and biological weapons. the cult-that this comes after u.s. intelligence reports show the syrian regime may be readying those weapons and may be desperate enough to use them. president barack obamas told an audience at the national the fifth anniversary monday the u
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2.2 trillion from the federal deficit over ten years. with $600 billion in health care cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich, bringing in $1.6 trillion. republ
out of washington is pretty pessimistic today about getting any kind of deal averting the fiscal cliff. we're hearing from folks on the hill there are no -- there are no private, you know, mat matchinations or talks. it is up about eight points around the 13,000 level. keep in mind the date is december 4th, 2012. if we go off this cliff, how much do you think the dow will lose. conman price, can you slap a number on that? >> no, no way to do that. what i do know -- >> how worried are folks on wall street? >> well, i think they're very worried. when i talked to folks out there trying to create jobs and find some certainty in the market so they can expand their businesses and create jobs, what they say is that all of this uncertainty hurts and so that's why we're so -- i'm confounded by an administration and president who seemingly isn't interested in providing that certainty. that's what we need to work on. that's what the negotiation process ought to be bringing us. certainty in the tax code, certainty in regulatory policy, all the kinds of things that are harming job creation right no
the fiscal cliff as if we could. in washington, the capitol hill christmas tree will be lit tonight. john boehner will pull the switch in a hospital of holiday inn duesed n induced nonpartisa. >> that's the look ahead today. we've had a few technical problems with getting our licks up to north america which is why we've had a number of guests stacking up, but i'm assured we're working on them. we will talk about the ski season, as well. before that, let's remind you what the headlines are today. fiscal cliff talks set to drag ons as budget proposal by republicans dismissed by the white house. banking union talks taking central stage in brussels. finance ministers trying to find a deal. and australia central bank has cut interest rates to its lowest level since the financial crisis. how? cdw and hp networking implemented a virtual application network that reduces the time to deploy cloud applications from months to minutes. with fewer bottlenecks like this. finally. charles! client golf. aim for the lake. really? can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. whe
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-called fiscal cliff talks here in washington. right wing on twitter puts it this way, and he was for us to grab the wealthy folks at the tax breaks. it wasn't tied to inflation, now it's getting the middle class. steve and alexander, virginia commuter next. >> caller: i have had to be in the minority that thinks the amt is a good thing because it arbitrarily raises the taxes on folks and government programs have to be paid for. i'm really intrigued with mr. buckley's statement that there is going to be chaos if the amt is permitted to go forward or that it's not patched in 2012. what chaos is going to happen? people will have to pay more taxes and it's not as if everyone is sitting around their tax offer right now, anticipating what their taxes are going to be. it's basically individuals will be hit with a tax bill, which is going to be calculated and quite frankly more simplified form than the standard tax law. >> host: professor buckley. >> guest: when i say chaos, i am referring to two things. first, the irs has done all of its internal programming based on the assumption that there would be
-10 when i went to bed. >> i saw it. washington might be paralyzed about this ridiculous fiscal cliff, but we're happy about this. >> gretchen: the only good news for washington now is the redskins win. >> and the weather. >> gretchen: the third thing is that the white house leaks are now saying that president obama actually maybe wants to go over the fiscal cliff if the republicans do not agree to raising income tax rates even though yesterday they agreed to these deductions and loopholes and getting rid of them, which essentially many people argue, would do somewhat of the same thing. your thoughts? >> right. so there are going to be consequences for syria if they use chemical weapons and the president thinks there is going to be severe consequences for the republicans if, in fact, we go over this precipice and raise your hand if you're tired of this cliche about the fiscal cliff. he thinks look, the republicans will suffer terribly, the country will be thrown into some turmoil, he thinks and he thinks he's the winner either way. it's easy for the president and his team to go out th
:44. the back and forth continues in washington between congress and the white house over the so-called fiscal cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king with the bloomberg business report. >>> good morning. if you are thinking of flying over the holidays and don't have a ticket yes, book fast. airfares are up 4% compared to last year now that advanced purchase window can keep costs down if you buy 21 days in advance. if you are looking to save, christmas day airfares are cheaper along with december 27th and 31st, 17th and 18, may be good. congress gearing up to overall haul student loan debt collection wisconsin representative expected to introduce a measure thi
be involved in negotiations over the fiscal cliff. this is 50 minutes. host: we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some are potentially on the chopping block. joining us is john mckinnon from "the wall street journal." what are loopholes and deductions? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts. whether you like a loophole depends where you sit. deductions are the ones most people are most familiar with. the big itemized deductions are the home mortgage interest deduction. the deduction for charitable contributions is important. there are all kinds of other breaks. there are some that are big that people may not be aware of. the health care that we get a work represents a big source of income to a lot of people. it doesn't count as income on your taxes. that is a giant break in itself and known as an exemption. there are other breaks that exist. the earned income tax credit goes to the working poor. then folks with children get a child credit that is a lucrative credit, worth $1,000 per child right now. congress loves tax breaks. host: is there a differ
cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me walk you through the specifics or at least what specifics we have so far from this boehner counter offer and you can see where it falls short from the white house's perspective right in the top line take a look at the details here. boehner and the other house republicans are asking for $800 billion in new tax reform revenue. that's short of the $1.6 trillion that the president would like to see there. also health savings of $600 billion. mandatory savings of $300 billion. revisions of cpa of 200 billion. other discretionary saving 300 billion. they say net savings is $2.2 trillion all told. the white house says this plan is not balanced, and interestingly there's a little side skirmish here between the speaker of the house john boehner and erskine bowls. boehner said this was based on a report that bowles laid out. bawls said no. he said the approach laid out does not represent the simpson-bowles plan or the bowles plan. in fact what
washington as we keep our eye on fiscal cliff negotiations. we have an important profit warning today. shares of darden at a ten-month low after the restaurant operator cut its full year guidance. rachel rothman downgraded darden last month from positive to neutral with a $58 price target and joins us now on the cnbc newsline. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. it's become a busy morning for you. >> thank you, simon. thank you for having us. >> what's gone wrong at darden? the ceo is saying we had promotions. they didn't resonate well. we need bolder changes at red lobster, olive garden and longhorn steakhouse. >> they spent the last couple years trying to repotool menus d change limited time offers in an effort to reengage with core customer and drive positive traffic. unfortunately the efforts that they unveiled to this point have yet to actually take hold and so they are issuing a disappointment here for the quarter and for the full year citing negative same store sales at their core brands. >> is that partly because of the delayed rolled out of olive garden changes or because they
washington the benefit of the doubt so far today. we've had no real progress to speak of on the fiscal cliff. the president did speak publicly about it today. but we haven't exactly taken any step backwards either on wall street as far as the major averages go. we have had more special dividends declared, which we'll get to. first, get you caught up on the markets. kind of a meandering day. a few economic bits of data out today. other than that, not a lot going on as far as economic data go. we're all just waiting to see that white puff of smoke come out of washington and nothing yet so far. the dow virtually unchanged right now at 12,966. the nasdaq is down seven points right now. we'll talk with seema mody about that. and the s&p 500 index at this hour is down 1.80 in change at 1407. in today's "closing bell" exchange, we go over what is going on as we head toward the end of the year. seema mody is at the nasdaq today. jeff, what do you make of what's going on in washington? i'm most interested in the fact that the markets have lost the volatili volatility. we're not seeing the markets res
, for the latest on the fiscal cliff. just 28 days until everyone's taxes are set to go up. house republicans have now sent the white house their own plan for getting america's finances under control. but both sides still far apart. abc's jake tapper is covering this from the white house. jake, the white house downplayed this new offer but will it be enough to jump-start negotiations? >> reporter: i don't think so, george. the white house advisers describe the proposal that republicans offered yesterday, as a step backward in terms of negotiations. what the outlying house republican states is $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction. that includes 1.2 trillion in spending cuts. $800 billion in new revenue. optimistic projections. and $200 billion in other measures, such as adjusting the consumer price index. but house republicans say if the president doesn't like this, it's incumbent upon him to offer a plan that can make it through the house and the senate. >> the white house says they want to see the republicans first say that tax rates are going to go up. is there any prospect of a face-to-face meeti
a lesson from florida? next, how cherry's could be the latest victim in the fiscal cliff talks. the president of the united way joins me next. gerri: coming up, the war over charitable deductions. will they survive the fiscal cliff? is it a tax deduction for the rest next? >> reporter: ♪ gerri: one source of new revenues under discussion in the fiscal of today limiting deductions for the wealthy, even charitable deductions. it's a controversial idea that has cut and a lot of attention following a recent washington post op-ed. overwhelmingly the charitable deduction benefits the wealthy. here to discuss, president of independent sector and stacey stewart, president of the united weight both of whom met at the white house with the president. white house officials pleading there case. i can't imagine having to better guess for this segment. i want to start with this idea because it kind of blew me away when i saw. a major beneficiary for the charitable deddction, the %-i thought what about that charities and all the people who do -- to rely on them for there good work. let's sta
to the washington post, he is not enjoying. >> both sides seem to be digging in on a fiscal cliff deal. >> a new week brings new opportunities for gridlock. >> right now it's a stalemate. >> republicans used words like stalemate. >> is this a true stalemate? >> i would say we're nowhere. >> going nowhere. >> the path to nowhere. >> you're doing it wrong. >> just 28 days left. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's not a good sign. >> republicans were flabbergasted. >> flabbergasted. >> you can't be serious. >> going know where just 28 days left. >> i feel almost sorry for john boehner. >> does john boehner have control of his caucus? >> will john boehner lead his sdmaukz. >> is he leading his caucus or will his caucus lead him? >> two party two is going to dwarf tea party one. >> this is embarrassing. >> he's the problem. >> he's willing to act like the election never happened. >> we're not getting anywhere. >> we're going over the cliff. >> it's the gop who has been short on specifics. >> i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> the same exact policies. >> this shows that re
. that fiscal cliff, you know, that is real. we have some real financial issues that we need some real solutions for. >> all right. so presumably the president can reach his supporters online but can they reach congress? how do you take that and turn that into something that maybe has influence with the other side in. >> well, the thing about that is that the president is able to get messages to people who are versed in technology and participating in technology. the people participatory in technology know how easy it is to reach the people in congress. he's talking to exactly the right people, the people who know how to use twitter and facebook and e-mail. >> is there more to be done with this? is there opportunity for the president with those numbers in the millions almost limitless? >> it's almost limitless if he can will the vote his way. what will happen, you're going to see a lot more like this. he's going to do this with every issue now. >> you're limiting yourself in terms of who is social media savvy or not so much anymore? >> not so much anymore. if they are not social media savvy they
the white house has rejected the counteroffer from house republicans in the fiscal cliff negotiations. let's take a look at the gop offer. this is their version. it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. martha: so you put your number out there, you know, all kinds of response across the board this morning saying that it is, you know, equally laughable, ridiculous. there's no way that the white house is going to counter that offer. what do you think about that? >> well, i think that's sad, because think about what this president said when he campaigned. he said he wanted a balanced approach. he said he wanted 800 billion in revenue and 8
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